Friday, January 12, 2018

Are Colleges Teaching the Subjects Needed for Today's Engineering and Technology?


One of the topics I keep coming back to is my concern that the colleges and universities are not teaching the right subjects to prepare graduates for jobs in industry.  If you have read my rants before, you know   I am being critical, in a nice way, of course.  Yet, I think it is important to ask the question about courses, subjects, and the knowledge an engineer or technician really needs to learn. 

I know the institutions do not like change.   Professors want to keep on teaching the same subjects forever if they could.  Change is hard.  Whatever.  Aren’t you concerned that the colleges may actually preparing graduates for jobs that no longer exist?  Most colleges seem to be behind the curve in teaching the latest technologies and methods.  Academia always seems to lag the industry meaning that it is continually teaching the history of engineering and technology.  Yes, I know.  Not all schools are like this.  But many are.  And many do not even know they lag the real world.  The academic bubble, so to speak.

In talks I have given on this subject, I am invariably asked what I would do to change the curriculum.  What would I drop, add, enhance, or eliminate?  Great question.  Here is what I usually say.

·         Keep the physics and math pretty much as is.  Drop advanced courses in calculus.  When is the last time you solved a calculus problem in your recent engineering work?  I asked that question in a blog a while back and almost unanimously working engineers said never.  Yet all agreed it should be taught.  Engineers need to know it, but does not necessarily need advanced courses that could be taken in graduate school if needed.  Many in industry say teach probability and statistics instead.  Not a bad idea.  As for techs, I don’t think they need it at all.

·         Cut some of the more detailed circuit design courses.  Not every graduate will be designing ICs.  Make these design courses optional.

·         Add more system design instruction.  A huge segment of new hires never design circuits but do design systems.

·         Make the curriculum broader.  Give the BSEE, BSET and even AAS students the big picture and expose them to multiple disciplines like RF/communications, robotics, industrial, video, renewable energy sources, and automotive so they can know what they want to specialize in later.

·         Go heavy on the software and programming.  Today everything is embedded computers, interfacing and coding.  Artificial intelligence is the hot topic right now and there is a severe shortage of AI programmers and engineers.  Is anyone teaching this yet?

·         More hands-on lab.  Emphasize test and measurement.  That is what engineers do yet graduates don’t seem to know enough if any about the instruments or the procedures.

I do realize that you cannot teach all that a graduate needs to know.  Too many topics, so little time.  And the technology is changing at a rapid pace.  The secret is making the most of the limited time and credit hours we have to work with.

Anyway, I urge all of you who teach to get out and talk to industry and find out about what the jobs are like today and what subjects are critical to know.  Then initiate some changes in your own courses or curricula.  And while you are at it, learn some new things on your own.  I recently took an embedded controller course with C programming and interfacing using the TI 430 from Udemy.  Udemy is a great source of college level online courses and very affordable.  Check it out at www.udemy.com.

Cheers for now and happy New Year.

Lou Frenzel

P.S.  If you haven’t seen my new website on books, go to www.loufrenzel.com.

Thursday, March 16, 2017

The Problem with Textbooks

Textbooks have become a problem over the  years.  The books themselves are better than ever,  as they are up to date, in full color, and have lots of ancillary materials. What's not to like?  But the downside is that their cost has risen beyond the means of most students.  I have seen instances of the book price being higher than the course tuition.

In addition, students hate to read the book.  They may scan an assigned chapter but rarely seen to read the whole thing.  Most of today's students were brought up on video and the internet so are move visual acclimated and accustomed to reading short messages.  A big book is an intimidator.

Some solutions I have seen include students sharing a book, using it in the library, or buying used or older editions online,  Yet prices are still high.  My recent ETD listserv survey indicated that cost was a major issue.  And many are moving away from using textbooks in favor of using instructor-developed materials, online items and other free or low cost stuff.  As a textbook author, I have noticed a marked decline in sales over the years.  I know publishers are concerned but few have done much to solve the problem.

Ebooks are one  solution that students can buy online without the bookstore mark up.  Custom books are another possibility where you get to choose what chapters to include.  Going to black & white from color is another option.

Another textbook  problem is that they often do not cover the topics needed within a course.  The books do a good job of covering the fundamentals but typically do not include the latest technologies.  I wish the publishers would put out a series of chapter or white paper length modules on the various specialties like audio, video, wireless, solar and wind, automotive, IoT and many others.  Make them in color and let students buy directly.

What are  your suggestions for solving the textbook problem.

Cheers for now.

Lou


Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Math Still a Problem

In response to my recent ETD Listserv survey, Philip Regalbuto of Trident Technical College sent me this note.  He is right about math affecting enrollments and retention.  I have noticed this in my past academic experience.

Lou:
This past week the department was scheduling classes and I noticed that the
number of project student entering the 2nd year of our MET and AEET programs was
lager then in recent years.  What the department has done is request a the Math
department teach an applied math course to our students rather than the
traditional college algebra. The number of students completing the applied
math course has increased dramatically.  When our students would take the
college algebra class and any prerequisite classes we typically had 70 go in and
maybe 10 get out of the sequence   Now we are seeing 40 -50  students coming out
of the new sequence, We also added a course in numerical methods were the
Engineering Technology  department teaches students numerical methods that are
relevant to Engineering Technology problems.
My thinking is part of ET problem at 2 year college level is the math department
and how it teaches math.

Philip also had this to say about enrollments and advanced technologies..  Again he is right on.
 
> Lou:
> I think the reason for lack of new technologies to be included in EET programs
is that these new technologies are part of other departments, IE automotive or
the network systems . Colleges cannot afford to hire instructors who know about
these technologies because of the low pay in academia as compared to the pay in
industry.  Most of the students I see also want to be an engineer, so they can
make the "Big Bucks" and get a four year degree. The push for STEM is what is
driving this.  Stem promotes a 4 year engineering degree and ignores the
technicians with two year degrees.


How do we fix these problems?  Thanks, Philip.

Lou

Saturday, March 11, 2017

The #1 Problem for 2-Year Electonic Programs

I don't have to tell you what it is.  We all know it and  yet little is being done to solve it.  I am referring to lack  of new enrollments.  My recent ETD Listserv survey confirmed that, in general, enrollments were down or flat at best in most U.S. programs.  Only 38% of those responding indicated an increasing enrollment.  All schools need a steady stream of new students to justify the faculty, facilities and equipment.  And what about the employer needs?  Where will the graduates come from if there are no students?  Here's the way I see it.

  • The jobs seem  to be there.  I regularly see ads for techs of all sorts.  Most schools also seem to indicate the availability of jobs.  Positions are going unfilled. 
  • If jobs are available but enrollments are still down, maybe the school is not responding to local company needs with appropriate courses or programs.  Is that you?
  • Do you have a plan to promote your program?  If not, time to make one.  Common issue:  No time or money to do this.  Excuses...
  • One major issue is high school advisors are not promoting tech jobs or education.  They push four-year degree programs in engineering not two-year degrees for techs.  Yet this is a good maybe even a best option for many students.  Go talk to the advisors and tell them the benefits.
  • STEM does not seem to address the technician.  Most STEM initiatives promote engineering and four-year degrees.  What we need is a technician STEM effort.
  • Another factor that I hear over and over again is that prospects for college do not know what electronic technology is or has only a vague idea of it.  They also don't know what a tech is or what he or she actually does.  Many tech  jobs go by more specific names like computer tech, cable TV tech, manufacturing tech, robotics tech, cellular wireless tech and so on.  Not electronic tech.   Not sure what the solution is here.  It has to do with educating the potential clients and high school advisors as well.
So there it is.  The needs are still there.  The solution being  your program is there.  Now how do we get the two together?  Someone needs to seek a grant for this problem.  The solution helps students, employers, the job growth, and the colleges.  A have your cake and eat it too event. 

What are your thoughts?

Lou


Saturday, March 04, 2017

The Coding School Model

Many electronic technician jobs do not require an AAS degree.  But these jobs do require certain knowledge and skills that can be taught in a shorter amount of time.  The jobs are usually related to manufacturing, service and repair, installation and field service.  It may be time for colleges to consider some kind of shorter certificate program that could put graduates to work sooner and fill all those available job openings.

This is being done right now to teach programming.  With so many programming jobs available there have not been enough college graduates to fill these good positions. This need has fostered the creation of coding schools, special for-profit organizations thaat teach programming.  These coding school programs typically last for 12 weeks and cost about $10K to $20K.  High cost for sure.

The result is that students learn basic programming skills fast and companies are hiring them into entry level programmer positions. The pay is good and the prospects for promotions are excellent based upon performance.

A recent Wall Street Journal article pointed out that today there are 91 full time coding "boot camps" in the U.S. These produced 18,000 graduates in 2016.  More are on the way.

What I am asking here is why not create a similar program for electronic techs?  This could be done by some entrepreneur who would create a program and a for-profit school.  Such a school would be competitive with community college programs so why not avoid this and create such a program inside your college.  It would bring in more students and fill the needs of some employers.  I visualize a 12-week program that would not be as expensive as the coding schools, maybe half of what they charge.

I am not sure all what such a program would teach.  Probably some fundamentals but heavy on the practical hands-on skills like soldering, test instrument use, and basic troubleshooting.  I will think about this and  put together an outline.  Let me know if you are interested.

While I was teaching at the local community college, we offered a one semester certificate program that ran 8 hours per day 5 days a week.  It was make up of standard courses taught on an accelerated basis.  It was too intense for many students and instructors.  But it was successful and graduates did get hired.  A program tailored to the available jobs is a better way to go.

With some electronic tech programs in decline this could be a way to solve the enrollment decreases.  Some promotional effort would be needed to find the students and let employers know about it.  That is always an issue but it is the same for promoting your existing program.  Nevertheless, it may be something to try if you need to stem the declines.  It is time to innovate.  Be bold.

What do you think?

2017 Survey of 2-Year Electronic Technology Programs


In case you did not see this earlier, here are the results of the recent survey of 2-year electronic technology programs.  Thanks to all of you who participated. And special thanks to the ETD Listserv at Texas A & M University for hosting this survey.



I particularly enjoyed the extensive comments.  There are too many to post here but I have boiled them down and summarized to save space.  I have concluded with some of my own commentary. 



NOTE:  Some percentages do not add up to 100% because not all questions were answered and/or multiple choices were given per question.



The outcome of the survey is interesting and hopefully this current picture of electronic technology programs will help you improve your own program.



Best wishes to you all.



Lou Frenzel



1.         The enrollments in my ET program are:

                        a.         Up                   28%

                        b.         Down              38%

                        c.          Flat                  28%

Comments:

 * Program closed.  Still teach several electronic courses as part of other programs.

*  Program has been suspended.



2.         Have you added any new courses or programs recently?

                        a.         No                   45%

                        b.         Yes   What?    55%

Courses/programs added:  Internet of Things, SCADA, process control, mechatronics, alternative energy, PLCs, motor control, avionics, senior project.



3.         What electronic specialties do you teach?

                        a.         Computers (PCs)                   45%

                        b.         Networking                            34%

                        c.          Communications/wireless   45%

                        d.         Industrial                               55%

                        e.         Other   What?

Specialties taught: Generic electronic tech, PCB fabrication, wind energy, power generation, DAQ.



4.         What approach does your program take?

                        a.         Theory/circuit oriented       76%

                        b.         System oriented                    21%

                        c.          Service and repair                21%

                        d.         BSET prep.                             24%

                        e.         Other   What?

Other approach:  Minimum theory/low math, maximum hands-on.



5.         Do you teach programming?

                        a.         No                                           21%

                        b.         Yes  What language?             79%



Languages taught:  C/C++ (91%), Assembly (35%), Python (17%), BASIC (13%)



6.         Do you use virtual instruments in the lab?

                        a.         Yes                  55%

                        b.         No                   38%



7.         Are jobs currently available for graduates?

                        a.         No                               14%

                        b.         Yes   What field?        76%

Jobs available:  General electronic tech, mechatronics, PLCs, automation, wind and solar, avionics, drones, industrial service and maintenance, instrumentation.



8.         What is your current greatest need or issue?

            *  More students, more and better marketing and outreach.

            *  More faculty

            *  More space

            *  More funds for equipment, software

            *  More jobs than interested students.

            *  Potential students do not know what electronics is.



9.         How do you fulfill the need for faculty continuing education?

            *  Little or no support or funds from the colleges.

            *  Faculty must seek it out for themselves.

            *  Some use of online courses, conferences, webinars, workshops.



10.       What major technology or employment trend do you see that should be addressed?

            *  Growing emphasis on manufacturing, automation, industrial controls and communications, PLCs, Internet of things.

            *  Network security issue.

            *  Students with programming skills seem to progress quicker in industry.



11.       Do you still use standard textbooks?

                        a.         Yes                  76%

                        b.         No                   17%

Comments:  Textbooks have become too expensive.  The trend is to only use class notes, handouts, and online materials.  Texts’ content often does not match up with courses taught.



12.       Do you offer online courses?

                        a.         Yes                  45%

                        b.         No                   55%   

                                    Why not? 

Comments:  Some have hybrid courses, online plus college-based lab and testing.  Many instructors are not sold on the idea.  There is a problem in implementing the hands-on lab component of most courses. Online courses have a high drop out rate.



Personal comments and opinion:



My Background (in case you want to know who Lou Frenzel is):

·         17 years as a department head, professor and adjunct in 2-year AAS degree electronic programs at three community colleges and one technical school.

·         25 years as both a technician and engineer in the electronics industry.

·         Devoted hobbyist and electronics experimenter and ham (W5LEF).

·         Author of 26 books on electronic and computer subjects.

·         Currently an electronic industry analyst, researcher, and writer.



Comments:

·         I was sorry to see the collective 66% down/flat enrollment figure.  What is wrong?  Better marketing and recruiting are a must if jobs are to be filled.

·         I was happy to see more programming activity as this is one skill that will take students and graduates beyond the tech level if they are interested.

·         Looks like industry and manufacturing, automation, and PLCs are the healthiest job areas.  Robots were never mentioned but they may be a part of the manufacturing and automation results.

·         I was surprised to see little or no mention of wireless.  It is currently the largest and fastest growing segment in electronics.  Cellular is booming with 4G LTE rollout and 5G development including continuous upgrades in Wi-Fi.  New dedicated short range communications (DSRC) systems for vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) is coming soon to all cars and trucks.  The Internet of Things movement is a hot growth area.  Guess the jobs are not there yet or known about.

·         No mention of automotive electronics but it is a fast growing segment in electronics because of the development of the advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) like auto braking, lane departure, backup cameras, etc. as well as self driving and electric cars.  The auto tech of the future will be an electronic tech.

·         Textbook publishers should heed the warnings in this survey as the book prices have gone out of sight and content does not exist for some subjects taught.

·         I am worried that faculty may not be current with the latest technologies, components, methods, test instruments, etc. for lack of continuing education.  Hopefully most faculty members are autodidacts and learn on their own.

Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Change Your Textbook

The fastest, easiest and best way to update a course is to change your textbook.  I'm not kidding.  I have done this myself several times in the past and I can recommend it.  Most schools and instructors get in a rut and continue to teach the same course the same way year after  year.  All the while, they keep the same textbook.  Boooring....  Isn't it time to give your course a refresher and yourself something new to appreciate?  Changing texts is a great way to do it.

I can hear some of you cussing now and saying what an idiot I must be.  Go ahead and add a comment below if you wish.  I want to hear why  you insist on keeping the same old book and syllabus you have been  using for years.  I know all of the excuses as I have been through this process multiple times over the  years.  And, yes, it is not easy.  In most schools, changing a text is a big deal and not taken lightly.  Here are the usual reasons instructors resist changing.
  1.  It is too much trouble.
  2. I like the book and syllabus I have now.
  3. I will have to change my Power Points or overheads and course notes.
  4. Getting a textbook change through the faculty or other committee is an ordeal.
  5. Students could care less about what book we are using.
Anyway, I feel your pain.  But look on the bright side.  It is usually a positive experience to change a text.  Here are a few benefits.
  1. Some texts are easier to read than others.  It helps students read the book and learn better.
  2. A new text  usually updates the technology even if the book is one on fundamentals.
  3. Some new books cover the fundamentals in the context of new technology or applications.
  4. A new text may eliminate unnecessary topics or add new relevant topics you should be teaching.
  5. Some new books take the systems approach to electronics that is more fitting for techs today.
  6. Some new texts reduce the amount of design and analysis that is not what techs need to know.
  7. A new text can include a troubleshooting approach that is a good fit for graduates today.
And some other good news is that if you are teaching fundamentals like DC/AC, you won't have to change many Power Points if any at all.  Maybe all you need to do is add a few new slides here and there.

Changing the text gives an old course new life and can make your job more interesting.

Take a look at some of the new books available now.  Call the book sales rep and get review copies and do a review against your current book.  Then initiate a change.  It can never hurt and will certainly refresh not only the course but your attitude as well.

And if you are looking for a new DC/AC/Semiconductor book, take a look at mine while you are at it.


Monday, February 03, 2014

A Communications Course is NOT an Elective

I am updating my McGraw Hill textbook Principles of Electronic Communication Systems.  The 3rd edition was published in 2008 but a great deal has transpired in communications since then.  While the fundamentals have not changed, the circuit and systems technology seems to change daily.  The revision for the 4th edition is major.

This book is widely used in universities and community colleges for a general introductory course in wireless, networking and other communications technologies.  Yet it got me thinking why more schools do not offer a communications course.  In an informal survey of electronic technology (ET) curricula I find that the majority of community colleges and 4-year ET schools do not offer any kind of communications course.  Why?

My own view is that communications should be a basic subject in any electronic program, like digital or microcomputers.  It is a near criminal act to graduate a student without some basic communications knowledge.  Comm is everywhere today, in every product and the heart of any application.  Try to name something electronic these days that does not involve communications.  Cell phones, tablets, Wi-Fi, the Internet, Ethernet, cable TV, fiber optics, satellites, drones, radar, wireless everything.  Most electronic employees like techs and engineers work with communications everyday.

Anyway, if  your school does not have a communications course, consider adding one.  In my survey I saw that many schools had communications courses but they were inactive.  These were centered around 2-way radio and FCC licensing.  These are still valid today, of course, but the dominant communications today is cellular and Wi-Fi.  Time to update the course.

My new 4th edition will be available late this year and it even has a new lab manual.  Take a look if  you are updating a comm course or considering a new one.

Cheers.

Tuesday, July 02, 2013

Online Electronic Labs

One of the main excuses for not implementing online electronic technology courses is that students cannot do the lab.  I say bull.  A lab component is easily implemented especially in the low end basic courses.  Let me explain.
 
First, home study schools have been using lab materials for decades.  While there are not too many of these so-called correspondence or distance learning programs still around, schools like AII, CIE, NRI, NTS, ICS, Heathkit, CREI and others provided low cost kits and instruments with hands-on lab manuals with experiments.  The labs included a DMM and some of them an oscilloscope as part of the tuition.  The low cost components were supplied along with a breadboard or trainer to build basic circuits and experiment with them.  All were successful.
 
The secret was in the lab manual.  It was very detailed so that students could get through the lab work with minimal mistakes and help.  Of course, students could contact the instructors for help if needed.
 
That approach is viable today.  Any school can put together a set of parts and equipment that the student buys at the bookstore.  It is affordable and doable.  Just have a procedure for students to call or email the instructor for help.
 
Companies like National Instruments (NI) also now have a trainer that connects to a laptop to provide virtual test instruments like a DMM, scope, signal generator, Bode plotter, etc.  NI uses a version of their well-known LabVIEW software.  A breadboard with power supplies plugs into the laptop USB port.  That product is called myDAQ.
 
National Instruments' recent acquisition of Digilent gives them a couple of other such products like the Analog Discovery.  Digilent also offers a mix of FPGA and microcontroller lab products for academia as well.
 
This approach is very applicable to all the basic courses like DC, AC, semiconductor, linear, basic digital and microcontroller.  All the hardware is affordable.  The secret is in the lab manual and support.
 
Just don't say that online labs are not possible.  It has been done successfully for years and is still a viable approach.
 
 

The Ideal Electronic Technology Curriculum


What if you had to create a new AAS degree program in electronics technology from scratch?  Could you do it?  And if you could, what would it be?  Would it be traditional as it has been for decades or something that matches the world today?  Think about it. Here is what I would do.

A Hybrid Approach

First, I would keep the fundamentals but implement them in online courses.  These would be courses in DC and AC circuits as well as basic semiconductor technology and linear circuits.  All work would be online with students implementing the labs with their breadboard trainers and laptop-based instruments.  All the remaining courses would be traditional, lecture and lab.  Here are the courses:

·         Digital – Similar to current courses but updated to include FPGA emphasis, interfaces, A/D, D/A, etc.

·         Microcontrollers – Similar to current courses.  C programming.

·         Advanced microcontrollers – Emphasis on advanced programming in C and interfacing.

·         Communications – Survey covering wireless, networking, and all communications technologies.

·         Robotics – Introductory course on robots including drones.

·         Computers – PCs, laptops, tablets, operating systems, peripherals, interfaces, software, the Internet.

·         Audio – Complete coverage of all audio areas from hi-fi, recording, music, large sound systems, portable audio, MP3 players, Bluetooth audio.

·         Video – Complete coverage of all video including TV, cable, satellite, OTT, surveillance, cameras, etc.

·         Wireless – In-depth wireless coverage with emphasis on cellular, M2M, Wi-Fi, and microwave.

·         Industrial – Survey course of process control, PLCs, sensors, field buses, motor control.

·         Alternative energy – Solar, wind, smart grid and metering, emergency power, LED lighting, batteries and charging, etc.

·         Test and measurement – Introduction to most the popular test equipment and testing and measuring procedures.

Note the focus on applications.  And ALL courses are required.  Each course will have a dedicated modern lab.  This is what will keep students motivated and interested.  And the mix will better prepare students for actual jobs.  Note that there is minimal math need and no analysis or design content.  The program prepares technicians for hands-on industry jobs.  They are not engineers.

The Downsides

What are the down sides to this approach?  Well for starters, there are no equivalent courses except for the basics so I suspect transfer credit is out of the question.  No BSET transfers for graduates of this program.  What a shame.  That just goes to illustrate the strait jacket that our educational system has become.  Conform to some model of the past or be left out.  For a subject like electronics that is constantly changing, it is the worst possible situation.  It prevents change and stifles innovation.  Such a program may be excellent for the students and the employers but for the institutions it is not a good thing.  Traditional is better.  Minimal change and fuss.  I think most faculty would keep it that way.

Another downside is the expense.  Such a program would be expensive to set up because of the need to equip many new labs with the latest equipment.  An initial investment would be high but would be good for a few years.  Yet it would need updating every so often as technology changes dictate.

Conclusion

It is fun day dreaming about what could be.  However, I am realistic enough to realize something like this would never happen in the real academia.  The traditionalists would kill it on sight.  Too bad as this kind of program is what would attract and hold students.  Maybe a proprietary school could do this and benefit not only itself but the students, graduates and the employers.

Monday, February 18, 2013

My New Textbook

Just a quick note to  you who follow this blog.  McGraw Hill just published my new electronics textbook.  The title is Contemporary Electronics:  Fundamentals, Devices, Circuits and Systems.  It is the first textbook to cover the systems approach, at least that I know of.  The book is designed for 2-year AAS degree programs.  Here are some of the key features:
  • Covers 3 courses, DC, AC and Semiconductor devices and basic linear circuits
  • 3 Chapters on troubleshooting.
  • 2 system chapters
  • System sidebars: chapter supplements with new and related materials
  • Applications emphasis.
  • Test bank and Power Points
  • Matching lab manual.
If you are looking for a new text, take a look.  Go to www.mhhe.com/frenzel1e for details.  And you can get a review copy from your MH rep.

I will be in Houston at the Texas Community College Teachers Association annual meeting Friday, February 22 at 1 pm. I will be speaking to the Electronics group and will give away a copy of the book.  Then I will be at the MH booth if  you want to say hello and see the book.

Hope to see you there but if not at least take a look at the book and give me your feedback.

Lou

Sunday, January 06, 2013

Engineering Technologists Are Engineers

The title above is also the title of an article in the Spring 2012 issue of thet Journal of Engineering Technology.  This one slipped by me even though I mentioned the other BSET articles in the Fall issue of that publication in my post of December 17th.   Thanks to Ron Land, a professor at Penn State University for pointing me to this article.  Ron, author of the article, was involved in a survey of employers regarding how BSET graduates were employed.  And his article confirms what we all were glad to hear, BSET grads get jobs as engineers.

Of course, this is nothing new to those of us who have held bachelor of technology degrees and engineering jobs as well.  I have one of the oldest (oldest?) bachelor of technology degrees, a BAS from the University of Houston.  I won't say when I got that but even in those days when no one knew what the degree was, I ended up in one engineering position after another in the early days of my career.  Most BSET grads I have ever talked to had engineering jobs.

I have always been disturbed by the idea of saying that BSET programs prepare graduates for jobs as "engineering technologists".  Just what is that?  And have you ever seen a job add for an engineering technologist?  If you have, I would love to hear the details about it.  Industry does not define such a job.  Industry has jobs for engineers and technicians.  That's it.

Anyway, Ron, thanks for your contribution to this controversy and clarifying what is going on in the real world.  Be proud of your BSET.

And happy new year to you all.

Lou

Monday, December 17, 2012

BSET Update

Just a note about BSET education.  The latest issue of the Journal of Engineering Technology (JET), Fall 2012 issue, Volume 29, No. 2 has several key articles about ET.  Check out the article called Engineering Technology National Forum: An Action Arm of ETC for National Impact.

One key facts that emerged confirming what I said in an earlier blog is that most BSET grads are employed as engineers.  This is not a surprise to most of us who have a bachelors in technology degree.  I worked as an engineer for many years after the degree and so has most other BSET grads.  The companies need engineers and for most available jobs the BSET is perfectly fine.

While you are looking that issue, also see the other excellent piece called On Engineering Technology Education: BS to PHD.

The JET is a publication of the ASEE.  I get the print copy but you may be able to read it online at www.asee.org.  If not, you need to join ASEE.

Cheers,
Lou

ETD Listserv Survey on Electronic Technology


Here is the outcome of the survey I posted to the ETD Listserv in November.  This is my analysis and understanding.

The percentage totals for some questions do not add up to 100% because not all participants answered all questions and/or in many cases participants selected two or more choices.

The comments to the last question are particularly interesting and telling.  Worth a read.

1.       How is your ET program doing today?

a.       Doing well and growing.                        36%

b.      Healthy but flat with no growth.       41%

c.       In decline.  Losing enrollment.           10.2%

d.      Recently closed.                                       10.2%

This is positive news.  77% of programs are doing OK and some growing.  The growth has more to do with local jobs and related activity.  And aggressive recruiting efforts really help.  All this is in contrast to the status of things several years ago.  There has been some improvement.  Still, I hate to see programs closing but often little can be done if there is no jobs market for the graduates.  It’s a local problem.

2.       What factors contribute to the status of your program?

a.       Local industry needs.                             43.6%

b.      Job growth                                                 18%

c.       Lack of jobs                                                                12.8%

d.      Interest in new programs.                   30.6%

e.      Other.  What? 

a.       Quality of program and efficacy of our recruiting efforts.

b.      Transfer to university.

c.       Poor students.

d.      Students do not have the skills to survive the program.

e.      Declining enrollment.

f.        Only one instructor.

g.       Active recruiting.

h.      Students don’t know what electronics is any more and what you can do with it.

Clearly local industry needs are the clues to a healthy program.  Develop local companies as partners and your program can prosper.  Note the 30.6% interest in new programs.  New offerings that match job needs are a positive step to healthy program growth.

 

3.       What new courses or programs have you added lately?

a.       None                                                             23%

b.      Alternative energy (solar, wind, etc.)33.3%

c.       Electric utility                                             10.2%

d.      Wireless/communications                   2.5%

e.      Biomedical                                                  10.2%

f.        Other.  What?

a.       BSEET

b.      Networking (2)

c.        Computer forensics

d.      2nd microcontroller course

e.      Arduino course (a type of micro)

f.        EE Engineering

g.       Industrial electronics

h.      Robotics (2)

i.        Data acquisition

j.        Electric/mechanical drives

k.       Nanotechnology (2)

l.        Industrial maintenance.

Alternative energy programs have attracted some new enrollments in the past several years.  It is an interesting and exciting field.  Many of these new programs came about with grant funding to support the green energy movement.  Unfortunately, as most schools have learned, there are few if any jobs available in this field.  Some do exist but in areas were the need and availability of techs is greatest.  Wind farms find it hard to find workers but few are willing to do the tower climbing needed in most cases.  And only affluent sunny areas can afford solar.  Another field with this problem is nanotechnology.  Grants are available to fund some courses but where are the jobs?  It is OK to take the grant money and build some courses or a program but just remember there may be no real jobs available.  Maybe in the future.

 

My experience shows that jobs do exist in industry and in networking.  And a second micro course is a great idea.

4.       Have you heard of the system approach to teaching electronics?  If so what are your thoughts?

a.       Have heard of it.                      46.3%

b.      Considering it.                           18%

c.       Plan to incorporate.                                15.4%

d.      Have not heard about it.       7.7%

e.      Do not plan to incorporate. 5.1%

f.        Need more information.      7.7%

g.       NOTES:  Already using.  Have used it for 20 years.  Already doing it.  Not entirely sold.  Not sure yet.

The system approach has been around for five to eight years now and it is surprising to see so many who have not heard of it.  The majority have heard of it and some are already using it.  It is the way of the industry at least for technicians and AAS graduates.  Some do not agree with its premises but I doubt they know the real truth about what goes on in the modern industry.  Others are open minded and still willing to evaluate the concept.  If you have not seen  MATEC’s www.esyst.org  website, take a look to get the full explanation.

 

5.       What factors most influence what you teach or how you update your courses and curriculum?

a.       Industry input.                                          77%

b.      What other schools are doing.           7.7%

c.       What the textbooks include.              18%

d.      Clearly visible industry trends.           49%

e.      Research.                                                    5.1%

f.        Other.  What?   Time available in curriculum.  Advisory board. (2)

I was happy to see that 77% use industry input to help decide what to teach.  How much of this is real and not lip service I do not know.  I have seen advisory boards recommend changes then after the meeting all is forgotten and the status quo is preserved.  In any case, it is always a good idea to defer to local industry ideas and suggestions.  Then actually implement the changes.

 

One problem I have seen is that some local industry representatives see the faculty as the experts in knowing what to teach.  In my experience, the faculty is competent but not in tune with the real world of work and current technology and needed skills.

 

I should have asked how faculty learns of the “clearly visible industry trends”.

 

6.       Do you use a standard textbook?

a.       Yes                                                                                                 92.3%

b.      No.                                                                                                 2.5%

c.       We use print hand outs and other supplements        25.6%

d.      We use an online text and references.                          10.2%

No mystery here.  Most do use standard texts at least for most courses.  There were multiple comments here saying that for some courses no texts were available so other materials are used.  Handouts and supplements are common place and no doubt consist of new material not in the textbooks.

 

7.       What are your thoughts about online courses?

a.       We have them now.                                               56.4%

b.      Like but do not currently use.                             12.8%

c.       Will eventually adopt.                                            5.1%

d.      Do not like them and will not use.                    10.2%

e.      For future consideration.                                     7.7%     

f.        Cannot do labs.                                                         25.6%

This result really surprised me.  I had no idea that so many online courses were being offered.  No full degrees but multiple courses are available.  And these courses are of the hybrid variety with some conventional lab or class activity combined with online instruction.

There is a small group of responders that are vehemently opposed to online work.  Maybe they perceive it as a threat.  Or mostly I think they have never tried an online course.  Online instruction is the wave of the future given the high cost of education today.  Several comments related to how online instruction was mandated at the dean level despite any opposition.

And by the way, there is a way to do labs.  Most think it cannot be done but it has been in the past.  I will have a blog entry up on this shortly.  www.electronictech.blogspot.com   

8.       What is currently your greatest concern or issue today?

a.       Disappearing feeder programs.

b.      Decrease in upcoming student populations.

c.       Lack of preparation of incoming students.

d.      Availability of jobs in local area.

e.      The quality of leadership of the dean.

f.        Program deactivation.

g.       Making sure course content is applicable to current industry requirements.

h.      Maintaining current student count.

i.        Lack of jobs

j.        Recruiting is limited to advisors without faculty input.

k.       Instrumentation and control AAS is going strong.

l.        Need new direction from outside the college.  The big picture.

m.    Lack of appropriate preparation of high school students for ET program.

n.      Failure of high school teachers to push mid-tech careers.

o.      The huge gap between the standard electronics courses and reality.

p.      Sufficient numbers of qualified students.

q.      Moving into a new building.  Logistical nightmare.

r.        I am training the bottom half of the high school class, need to get the tip half involved.

s.       A lot of subjects to add with less room left in the curriculum.

t.        Finding a balance between learning and industry needs.

u.      Getting the resources to incorporate new items.

v.       Maintaining program growth.

w.     Textbooks are mostly out of date with what industry is doing.

x.       State mandated curriculum.

y.       Few system approach textbooks available.

z.       Academic level and interest of students coming into the program.

aa.   What most industries need in an electronic technologist.

bb.  The crazy ideas from politicians and administrators for future solutions of problems.

cc.    Reaching out to potential students.  We have positions in industry we cannot fill.

These comments are priceless.  They really show what is going on and what the real concerns are.  The main issues are jobs, the preparation of students for college work, enrollment maintenance and growth, and textbooks.

Lou Frenzel

Technology Editor, Electronic Design Magazine

Adjunct Professor, Austin Community College